Socialism in South Texas is defined by Trojan Horse Tactics

I challenge Abel Cavada, Chair of Progressive Populist, to prove his not Communist?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 03:54:28 PM by Pete Trev

I can prove he is... I call on him right now to prove his not affiliated with a radical Communist-oriented group that is calling for downfall of our U.S. Society.

I challenge him in front of all the good Democrats of Nueces County and the State of Texas and the U.S.

If is he, how dare he infilitrate our party with lies and deception and ruse. I want him to prove that he has not demaged the reputation my grand and my family have fought so hard to protect and to maintain its integrity.

Cavada what now?

Re(1): I challenge Abel Cavada, Chair of Progressive Populist, to prove his not Communist?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:02:14 PM by John Kelley

So you can prove he is a member of the communist party? lets see it.

So now u tell us JOHN u met with TRAITORS to our country
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:01:59 PM by Karol

So u admit John u sad there with traitor to our country & planned with them? How dare you deceive us.

How can you possibly be a Democrat if you met with traitor to our country in a State Socialist Convention to work with them on goals that you consider of mutual interest.

Don't you understand they have a platform that calls for the downfall of Democracy; and to replace it with demonic socialism.

Re(1): So now u tell us JOHN u met with TRAITORS to our country
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:12:00 PM by john kelley

You obviously haven't read their platform as it does not call for the destruction of our country but to reestablish it on a more democratic and less elitist basis. They believe in working within the democratic system, something that seems foreign to those who would rather try and smear people. The republicans meet and work with the libertarians, the democrats have many different branches, the socialists have much in common with their platform and the democratic platform. you need to widen the base, i case you havent noticed the republicans have been winning, many of you would welcome republicans into the democratic party, HMM does that mean you are a republican?

Socialismo Defender John Kelley....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:26:10 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

and you are not a member am I correct John?

Re(1): Socialismo Defender John Kelley....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:28:13 PM by john Kelley

I am not nor have I ever been. Once again you are incorrect.

South Texas is my witness John Kelley
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 11:38:43 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

Let the people decide.

You are riding coat tails Comrade Kelley.

I will refrain from including the names of these Politicos you have brainwashed. You are dragging the Candidates down.

Will they distance themselves or sink with you?

If Abel Cavada has any honor left, left him respond not hide behind lies
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:19:45 PM by EX CCPPC

He should have some honor. Say the truth.

Re(1): If Abel Cavada has any honor left, left him respond not hide behind lies
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:30:39 PM by john kelley

if you trully are a ccppc member you know how to get ahold of me and find out the truth otherwise you are just another opportunista running a scam. Of course we did ban a couple of tejanos who wanted to gather info for the own group and never contributed one thing tothe few meetings they attended. they came seeking support for danny jr. for sdec which we did, but after the convention never showed again.

Socialist Party USA Platform- traitor John Kelley defends it,
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:29:48 PM by Just The Facts

http://sp-usa.org/platform/

Socialist Party USA 339 Lafayette St. #303 New York, NY 10012

2006-07 Platform
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The Socialist Party stands for the abolition of every form of domination and exploitation.
We are committed to the transformation of capitalism through the creation of a democratic socialist society based on empathy as well as the development of new social structures. Socialism will establish a new social and economic order in which workers and community members will take responsibility for and control of their interpersonal relationships, their neighborhoods, their local government, and the production and distribution of all goods and services.
For these reasons we call for social ownership and control of productive resources.
As we pursue a socialist transformation of society, we join with others in making radical demands on the existing system: demands that challenge the basic assumptions of a capitalist market economy while pointing the way to a new society. Although reforms will not in themselves bring about socialism, the fight for them will advance the cause by demonstrating the inherent limitations and injustice of the capitalist system. As we build the socialist movement, we organize around a platform committed to our common and interdependent struggles and aspirations.
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Socialist Party Platform: Economics

The Socialist Party stands for a fundamental transformation of the economy, focusing on production for need not profit. Only a global transformation from capitalism to socialism will work.

Re(1): Socialist Party USA Platform- traitor John Kelley defends it,
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:45:41 PM by john kelley

so you have proved what the socialist party says, you still haven't proved that i am a socialist

John Kelley writes for Socialist Publications, attends and host SPTX Conventions but technically....
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:12:48 AM by Jaime Kenedeno

he wants to split hairs and claim he is not a Socialist. We know John Kelley is not a Democrat. He is definitely a DINO.

Anyway as far as your technical defenses, we will let the People of South Texas make an informed decision.

Q: "Who wanted to gather info for their own group" A: (Trojan Horse) John Kelley & Abel Cavada
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:03:52 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

Now, Socialismos control the Nueces Democratic Party.

My name better not appear as a socialist John
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:10:20 PM by Ex Progressive Populist member

I hereby resign from the Corpus Christi Progressive Populist Caucus... I want my name (and I am a Woman)... My name better not appear on the 25 member list submitted to the Socialist Party USA.

I do not want my name and family to be labeled for the rest of our days. I am not a member of any socialist or communist party or radical group.

I will hold you responsible Solomon Ortiz Jr. and Sr., Abel Cavada and the gang. You all should just admit the truth. Minutes of the Socialist Party USA and TExas have been put out. Everyone knows, stop playing word games John Kelley, Abel Cavada, give us our lives and our party back. Have some honor Solomon Jr. also.

Re(1): My name better not appear as a socialist John
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:26:56 PM by john kelley

i know of no list submitted to the socialist party from PPC, that would be against our rules, if you have proof submit it otherwise it is a lie. If you read the emails you will see that I attended as an observer to talk mutual strategy and interests not as a member. it is interesting that the emails jaime is using as proof is one that he posted to this guys site or the guy picked up from a jaime posting and happened over a year ago and he has proved no association or even discussions since. By the way it is not against the law to be a socialist. If you really are a member of the PPC you know how to get ahold of me by email or phone and can discuss your concerns other wise you are just another disgruntled ... supporter running a scam.

By Association with Les Cassidy is confirmation John Kelley not to mention.....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:51:31 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

your rhetoric.

You and the SPTX are conjoined.

Even many of the CCPPC have admitted this and in return ask me WATT is so wrong with Social Justice.

JUSTICE does not begin with lies and deception.

Maybe JUSTUS does but not JUSTICE.

Re(1): By Association with Les Cassidy is confirmation John Kelley not to mention.....
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:01:14 PM by john kelley

no one ever informed me that i had to report my activities and discussions to you or anyone, else. sounds kinda stalinistic to me.

I am sure the "Good Democrats" who ARE loyal to South Texas......
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:09:27 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

would have booted you out way long ago had you divulged these activities and discussions.

It is always good to be truthful from the beginning else all is "fruit of a poison tree".

Comrade Kelley, you entered as a Trojan Horse.

Re(1): I am sure the
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:15:30 PM by john kelley

thats funny coming from someone who doesnt even use his own name.

Neither did Samuel Clemens use his own name
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 09:22:22 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

It is a Pen Name Mr Kelley.

Everybody knows who I am.

Jaime Kenedeno is prevalent throughout the World Wide Web. Good positive exposure and the Pen of War (Plume De La Guerra) given to me by one of your own Joe Flores.

Get out of that River People.

Re(1): Neither did Samuel Clemens use his own name
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 10:29:39 PM by John Kelley

YOu are correct, everyone knows who you are.

Then by this premise.....
Posted on September 11, 2006 at 00:24:34 AM by Jaime Kenedeno

They know I am from here and you are not.

They know to support me or stay the heck of my way.

We know,

"We're from here"

The former statement by John Kelley, "thats funny coming from someone who doesnt even use his own name" once again demonstrates Comrade Kelley's disingenuousness.

Don't even make these veilled threats. If you are gonna make a move then make it. The Great State of Texas is watching.

If it was not a threat then my sincere apologies sir.

John Kelley, why did you not inform us of the Socialismo mingling a year ago if it is so innocent?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:54:07 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

Do you think the duped Dems would have still supported the CCPPC?

Truth called trash?
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:15:04 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

When one speaks truth is that called trash.

Am I Lying?

Was I lying?

One must remember, I was obtuse to Homero because I thought it was only money. Homero had referred to some websites on the show (El Defenzor Live) but I was too dammned pissed to listen. Ask Solly. I suggested Solly run as a Democrat and drop the Progressive label. Ask him. Then Homero and I would not speak about it so I began to do a little research on Mr Cassidy. Then that is where I found Mr Kelley; smack in the middle of the Socialist Party of Texas. John Kelley was right there in the middle and was the subject of A Socialist overthrow of Solomon Ortiz in Congressional District #27. The thread was titled "Three socialist candidates for District 27: Raul Cano, (Les Cassidy or John Kelley) and Carlos Morin?" Now, have you read this conversation? Go read in there a little while and come back and tell me John Kelley is a good guy. He wanted to undermine and use us. He was already doing it. He lead us to believe he was a Democrat but he is an Operative of the Socialist Party.

The above post was not posted by me the writing inside is mine but I did not post it above.
Posted on September 10, 2006 at 08:46:56 PM by Jaime Kenedeno

Socialism in South Texas is defined by these type of Trojan Horse Tactics.